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LEADERS ANALYSE NAME PROPOSAL



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Macedonian state leadership carried out a preliminary analysis of the UN mediator's latest proposal for resolving of the name differences.

President Branko Crvenkovski, Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski and Foreign Minister Antonio Milososki reviewed the proposal, which according to Matthew Nimetz, contains a geographical reference to the name.

"Having in mind the importance of the proposal, and especially the significance of every detail of the same, we will wait for the Ambassador Nikola Dimitrov to return from New York and give a thorough briefing to the political factors in the Republic of Macedonia on the course of the talks and the specifics of the proposal," government's spokesman Ivica Bocevski said.

He added that the consultations will go on in the following days.

Although Nimetz himself did not specify anything, the media said that he most likely proposed the name "Republic of Macedonia (Skopje)".

Greek Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyannis said today that the new proposal is long way off Greece's goals. Previously, Washington reiterated the stance that the negotiated settlement of the name difference should be reached before the NATO Summit in Bucharest.


MD: Again the same proposal as a while ago... The story continues...

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Observations of the Government of the Republic of Bulgaria on application № 74651/01 before the European Court of Human Rights - Association of citizens “RADKO” and Vladimir Paunkovski (Vladimir Pankov) versus the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
01. On July 17 the, 2007 the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) communicated to the Bulgarian Government the application of Association of citizens "RADKO" and Vladimir Paunkovski (Vladimir Pankov) versus the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and forwarded an invitation to the Bulgarian party to intervene as a third party on the case, according to Article 36 of the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms as the second applicant is a Bulgarian citizens.
02. On August 30 the, 2007 the Bulgarian Government informed the ECHR of its willingness to exercise the right to intervene as a third party on the case.
03. The Bulgarian Government deems that the above application is admissible, grounded and well-founded.

One Greek report stated that the proposal was 'Republika Makedonija Skopje'. The Greek government wants a more geographical term.
Good luck to all of us...

President Gligorov declared on 1995 in a Ceck Journal that in Skopia live 100.000 Greeks (the only Macedonian minority in the country!).

We Macedonians that live in Greece Declare that we are Greeks since the beggining of our history and we have nothing to do with the so called 'Republic of Macedonia', a state situated in the Northen part of Historical Macedonia that is part of Greece. This new State created by the communist regime of Tito in 1944, has no connection with Historical Macedonia, Culture and Language!
This new State is not recognized by UN under this name but only as 'Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia' until they accept a name that respects their identity that is SlavoBulgarian and that also respects Greece's History of Macedonia!
Slavobulgarians of FYROM try to confuse with their posts in various sites on internet the minority of them who dosen't know the historical and geografical reallity of Macedonia and so in a future time can have a minimum support on their fake claims.
FYROM is a State that lives on drug and army traffic, having a 60% of unalphabetism and the bigger percentage of corruption in all europe!

" From the daughter of Deucalion sprang Magnes and Macedon, ancestors of the Magnesians and Macedonians, who are thus represented as cousins of the true Hellenic stock."
(G.P.Goold, Hesiod-Homeric Hymns-Homerica (London: The Loeb Classical Library, 1936 -1995 reprint), p.xxii)

Ancient Macedonia Quotes


Diodoros of Sicily 16.95.1-2
"Such was the end of Philip (II, king of Macedonia) ...He had ruled 24 years. He is known to fame as one who with but the slenderest resources to support his claim to a throne won for himself the greatest empire among the Hellenes, while the growth of his position was not due so much to his
prowess in arms as to his adroitness and cordiality in diplomacy."

COMFORT? Apparently, Greek and Turkish entry to NATO were delayed from 1950 to 1952. Why? Because of objections from Denmark and Norway... And it had nothing to do with the daughter of Deukalion or whatever :-)

Quotes:
"For I (Alexander I) myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery." (Herod. IX, 45, 2 [Loeb])

"Tell your king (Xerxes), who sent you, how his Greek viceroy (Alexander I) of Macedonia has received you hospitably." (Herod. V, 20, 4 [Loeb])



"Now, that these descendants of Perdiccas are Greeks, as they themselves say, I myself chance to know." (Herod. V, 22, 1 [Loeb])


The country by the sea which is now called Macedonia... Alexander, the father of Perdiccas, and his forefathers, who were originally Temenidae from Argos"
(Thucydides 99,3 (Loeb, C F Smith)


"But Alexander (I), proving himself to be an Argive, was judged to be a Greek;
so he contended in the furlong race and ran a dead heat for first place."
(Herod. V, 22, 2)


"The Macedonian people and their kings were of Greek stock, as their traditions and the scanty remains of their language combine to testify."
` {John Bagnell Bury, "A History of Greece to the Death of Alexander the Great", 2nd ed.(1913)

"Clearly, the language of the ancient Macedonians was Greek"
{Prof. John C. Roumans Professor Emeritus of Classics Wisconsin University}

"There is no doubt, that Macedonians were Greeks."
(Robin Lane Fox "Historian-Author" In Interview with newspaper TO BHMA)

"Bulgarian historians say FYROMians are of Bulgarian origin and their language developed from a Bulgarian dialect," which Skopje denies. But Sofia was also the first country to recognize FYROM's independence from the former Yugoslavia in 1991 and now favours its joining the EU. (August 2006 AFP)

"Every FYROMIAN national who does not claim Albanian or Serbian origin has the right to declare a Bulgarian origin." This is an individual act in accordance with the historical reality of our common ethnic origin,”
According to: Stefan Nikolov of the Agency for Bulgarians Abroad. (August 2006 AFP)

The speech of Alexander I, when he was admitted to the Olympic games
"Men of Athens...
Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Hellas I should not have come to tell you; but I am myself Hellene by descent, and I would not willingly see Hellas exchange freedom for slavery....
If you prosper in this war, forget not to do something for my freedom; consider the risk I have run, out of zeal for the Hellenic cause, to acquaint you with what Mardonius intends, and to save you from being surprised by the barbarians.
I am Alexander of Macedon."
(Herodotus, The Histories, 9.45)

THE NAME ISSUE WILL NOT BE RESOLVED, SKOPIA WILL NEVER ENTER NATO AND EU, AND IN A VERY SHORT TIME SKOPIA WILL BE INCORPORATED FROM ALBANIA AND BULGARIA.
FORGET ANY RESOLUTION AS THE FACT THAT GREECE, ALBANIA, BULGARIA DOES NOT RECOGNIZE ANY 'MACEDONIAN' ENTITY, CULTURE AND LANGUAGE, THE JOKE OF THE 'CLOWN' STATE OF BALKANS IT'S FINISHED!
ADDIOS!

MACEDONIA LAND OF LEGENDS LAND OF GLORY BUT NEVER FUCKEN greek.
THE DAY WILL COME WHEN ALL THE PERSIAN LEFTOVERS WILL BE KICKED OUT FROM SOLUN.greek OCCUPATION IS AT IT'S END THE TRUTH WIIL CAME OUT AND MACEDONIA WILL RIGHTFULLY JOIN ALL IT'S PEOPLE

First go to a school, to learn to write, and then go to another school to learn to read... and then read History and learn that Macedonia is Greek, as we Macedonians are Greeks!
I understand that you have a race that is not to be proud of, but this is your race! Try to be better! and Get a History!

you greeks are going down to africa were you belong and with the monkeys

Fact 1 aleksander the macedonian
fact 2 Southern Macedonia seized by greece in the Balkan Wars 1912/13
fact 3 greek governments bending over all over the world

You greeks must be confussed ,
now your calling yourself Macedonians .and we all know that your are Turks

haha greeks are on the back foot, keep at it macedonia soon the whole world will recognize us as macedonia and the greeks will be able to do nothing. LOL 120 countries and counting including the USA, RUSSIA, CHINA, UK, and all neighbours. Keep on dreaming you mongols you have nothing in common with the ancient greeks let alone ancient macedonians. The so called 'greek' population of greek "macedonia" is made up of descendants of the population exchange bettween turkey and greece. So it is YOU that has nothing to do with ancient macedonia. We, the true macedonians, have lived on this soil for thousands of years never have we left or been forced to live. So wake up to yourself, if there is anything you should claim it is anatolia were you come from, not macedonia. EAT A DICK and fuck off of here this is a news page for macedonians. Im sick of your shit.

To the Greek(?) person writing on Ancient Macedonia. What you are doing is SPAMMING a good website (even if we disagree with some of it), it reflects badly on you. So please, TRAVA re FILE!

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