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TALKS TO RESUME IN NEW YORK



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The talks on name differences between Macedonia and Greece are set to continue at the UU headquarters in New York later this week.

UN mediator Matthew Nimetz will meet with Macedonian negotiator on Friday. Nimetz is scheduled to meet with the Greek negotiator on Monday, Greek Kathimerini daily said on Wednesday.

Macedonian top officials gathered on Tuesday to thrash out the issue and to build a common stance in the talks on name differences with Greece.

After the meeting, that took place in President Crvenkovski's Cabinet, the officials made no statements to reporters.

The aim of the meeting was to review the ideas put forward by Nimetz during his recent visit to Macedonia and to set a common position over the roadmap for the talks on the name issue.

During the visit to Skopje and Athens two weeks ago, Nimetz put forward a proposal that envisions Macedonia's name be changed into Northern Republic of Macedonia or Republic of Northern Macedonia. The new name is designed for international use and also in passports, media said, adding that Macedonia was urged to give up its Ancient past.


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Michaelos and Alfavitas, calm down! I didn't say that Alfavitas said about Tito, or that this one said about this or that one about that. I'm saying that this kind of conversations are allways same from the Greeks. Im saying that the OFFICIAL Greek "tactics" are allways few same centances, denying our existence, denying our language, denying our culture, making us "Tito's invention".... (I mean, you can see that in some of the Greeks writing on this forum, like gialtouridis for example).
The things that I wrote are not only for Alfavitas or Michaelos, they are for all of you. And to tell you the truth, I'm HAPPY if Alfavitas really means the things that he writes, about the minorities and their rights. The only thing bothering me is:
Why, all of you who believe that the monorities in Greece are scared of their human rights, dont go to the greek forums and say it there? Why dont you say to your Greek friends that you are Greek but you dont like what is happening with the othet nationalities in Greece? Why dont you say that in public when you seat in some coffe bar with your friends? Why dont you say it at home to your parents? Or teach your jounger sister or brother that the things are not wright?
Do you understand now what I want to say? I want to say that A LOT of people in Greece (Greek people) are avare of the hidden reallity about the Greek minorities, but NO ONE is doing nothing about it. I guess that everyone of you would do something if YOU were in their situation.
And Alfavitas, I CONSIDER GREECE AS MY MOTHERLAND, I write this because I CARE ABOUT ITS FUTURE, I show respect for ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN MY SITYATION, I fulfil ALL MY DUTIES TORWARDS MY COUNTRY, and MY COUNTRY DIDN'T EVER FULFIL ITS OBLIGATIONS BACK! We always say that Greece is our country. We want to worn Greece that with this kind of denial and ignoring torwards its own citizens, its future is NOT BRIGHT. We have always been loyal to Greece, we never started ANY problems, demonstrations,riots.... And what we get for that? NOTHING, being treated like third class citizens, like noone and nothing. Plus on that , I can see that most of you are questioning and doubting anything we say. We dont do that to you! If you say that you are Greek, or you FEEL like Greek, OK. That is your problem, not mine. Some of you are most probably born in Australia, or South Africa, or America, and maybe never even seen Greece, but you FEEL like GREEKS. Is same with us. WE FEEL LIKE MACEDONIANS, for as long as anyone can remember we caled eachother MACEDONIANS, and you are not the one to change that. You can call me "skopjanian" or "slavophone" for as long as you want, but I will allways BE Macedonian.
Same with our language. It is a MACEDONIAN DIALECT. The people from Greece cant understand the people from Cyprus, but all of them are saying that they are speaking GREEK. In Republic of Macedonia, the people from Skopje have problems understanding the people from Strumica, or Kriva Palanka, Or Kumanovo, but they all speak Macedonian language.
That's why, I think is about a time for you to stop questioning this things. It's to late now to change our feelings. You will allways feel as you feel, we will allways feel as we feel. Instead, if you are really concerned abouth the future of OUR country, start sypporting us. We should be on the same side.

You are assuming again... when you say, "Why dont you say that in public when you seat in some coffe bar with your friends? Why dont you say it at home to your parents?". I say exactly the same things to my Greek friends as I do on this or any blogsite, on wikipedia, on academic forum, etc...
* I have met Greek Slavophones who are furious with Skopje for assuming that Greek Slavophnes and FYR Makedonija Slavs are the same people, that they speak the same language.
* I also met 3 or 4 Greeks who claim to be ethnic 'Makedonce' and want minority rights.
* But just about all Macedonians I know in Greece and outside say, 'we are Macedonians, therefor we are Greeks' - including Prime Minister Karamanlis.
* So how do we solve the problem in Greece? In the 1940s people were happy to be called Slavomakedones. In WWII, they formed the, Slavic-Macedonian National Liberation Front (SNOF) - Slavjano Мakedonski Narodno Osloboditelen. So I respect your desire to be accepted as a 'Macedonian', but in Greece that term belongs to the Greek speakers because they are the majority and they have every right to be accepted as Makedones - by me by you and by the man on the moon.
* Since at least the 17th century, Greek Macedonian authors have been signing their names as Makedones. Really. Do you know of any Slav ethnic Macedonians who did the same?

THE REST OF THE WORLD IS SICK OF THE SAME OLD ARUMENT. MACEDONIA IS MACEDONIA AND GREECE IS GREECE. STOP HE FUCKEN SHIT AND LET MACEDONIA BE AND GREECE BE. STOP BLOCKING A SMALL REPUBLIC FROM JOINING ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE IN EU AND NATIO.

I AM NEITHER GREEK OR MACEDONIAN
MOST PEOPLE I KNOW ARE SICK OF HEARING ABOU GREECE STOPING MACEDONIA FROM USING ITS NAME AND HEARING HOW A NATION WHO HOSTED THE FIRST OLYMPICS CAN TREAT A SMALLER NATION. THE WORLD IS STARTING O LOOSE RESPEC FOR GREECE, SO WACH YOUR BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Fuck you. Macedonia is Greek.

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